Response to ACD Computerised Cognitive Behaviour Therapy for Depression and Anxiety (Review) by ST Solutions Ltd

 

1) Whether all the evidence available to the Committee has been appropriately taken into account regarding FEARFIGHTER (FF)?

NO. The ACD omits important findings sought by Guidance No. 51 from 7 FF studies, including 4 RCTs, which have great potential to promote the current NHS agenda and save costs. It unfairly re-evaluates clinical efficacy, which was already accepted as proven by NICE, on evidence restricted to the latest studies. This unfairness criticism is limited to the ACD

1.1.  

FF’s internet delivery enhances patient choice at the point of referral, giving 24/7 availability at home and anywhere else linked to the internet in complete privacy and obviating any requirement to go to a clinic. The net version of FF was developed and tested in response to a survey of several hundred patients which found a clear preference for CCBT at home to CCBT in a clinic. The ACD has paid only cursory attention to this demand from patients and the Internet technological breakthrough and the advantages it offers the NHS in delivering its patient choice agenda.

1.2.  

Below is part of an unsolicited email just received from a patient who has offered to let us use her story and name. We have to turn several patients away everyday as we do not have the resources to offer it for free and not everyone can pay.

"So all in all FearFighter has surpassed all my expectations helping me than the one to one with the Psychologist has (emphasis added).” Mary aged 61, agoraphobia/panic sufferer for 45 years; April 10, 2005. Total 23 minutes of support via phone and email

1.3.  

A “hot topic” for all users of PC-based CCBT is throughput or lack of it. Most manufacturers are now converting their products to the internet. FearFighter is the only product appraised that has actual RCT data on an internet service, and its potential impact on throughput has not been adequately taken into account.

1.4. 

FF on the internet can help to deliver CBT as recommended in NICE’s Guideline on Dec 2004 on Anxiety to the whole population. This eliminates both the bottleneck and postcode lottery problems, as it is available to patients 24/7 from the smallest practices and it requires only telephone support and no equipment at the surgery.

1.5.  

Patients’ outcomes can be audited automatically via anonymous records on FF’s central server, enabling PCTs etc to deliver required NHS audit expectations automatically at low cost. In addition, the server enables research to be done routinely across PCTs on a wide scale at low cost.

1.6.  

FF-Education is a training tool for classroom and distance learning. In 2 RCT’s it enhanced knowledge in nursing and medical students almost as much as did face-to-face lectures and it also saved teacher time, so it can help train staff at practices with special interests (PwSIs). FF-Education’s e-learning together with FF enables primary care staff to deliver proven practice-based effective mental health care as effectively as specialist secondary care for phobias, panic, anxiety and co-morbid depression. This could help Local Enhanced Service initiatives now being developed by PCTs. The NHS training guidelines for Graduate workers mentions the potential of FF- Education but this ACD does not consider the major way in which FF-Education can reduce NHS skills deficits. The ACD misses an opportunity to recommend tested educational programs based on tested CCBT products could to help train staff about anxiety and phobias and to deliver and support CCBT.

1.7.  

FF research presented to NICE found that the mean time of unemployment and health-care resource use was 8 years for sufferers from a range of phobias. The ACD does not take such costs into account. The impact of these chronic patients on health and social care resources is considerable. It is not unusual for NICE to cite such costs when considering guidance.

1.8.  

The ACD does not give clearly transparent cost-effectiveness data on the products in a way that can be explained fairly and reasonably to NHS managers

1.9.  

The finding that FF users who suffered from co morbid depression improved on their depression ratings as much as on their phobia scores is overlooked in  the ACD both in terms of its clinical impact and cost saving.

1.10.

The findings by Kenwright that secondary referrals were reduced at the GP practice in London served by a CCBT Self Care Clinic and then increased when the clinic ceased to function are not taken into account

2. Whether the summaries of clinical effectiveness and cost effectiveness are reasonable interpretations of the evidence regarding FearFighter?

NO. The ACD does not use the same standards for all disorders. It disregards much of the evidence, and uses an economic model that does not reflect the real world relating to Internet delivery. Neither we nor health economists we consulted have a full understanding of the model and it would be very difficult to explain to NHS staff.

Clinical Effectiveness

2.1 

We are at a loss to fathom why the ACD recommends a depression CCBT package tried in only 20 patients with no comparators, yet does not recommend FF after its 7 trials including 4 RCT’s and strong comparators in hundreds of patients. We have spent 12 years researching and developing FF to meet NHS requirements. The ACD’s guidance does not encourage us to do more unfunded research for another 3 years before acceptance when it recommends other far-less-tested products. We ask that NICE guidance for every product be based on the same fair criteria.

2.2 

FearFighters’ clinical efficacy was accepted by NICE in Guidance No. 51, since when there has been new positive evidence. The ACD is perverse in now bringing FF’s clinical efficacy into question for no obvious reason.

2.3 

In July 2004 the NHS document “Organising and Delivering Psychological Therapies” was positive about CCBT and FearFighter in particular and suggested it should be considered for use. The NHS Chief Executive then asked all PCT’s to take note of this document in his monthly bulletin.

2.4 

The NICE guidance on depression in Dec 2004 is very positive on CCBT and mentions FearFighter as a product that has been well proven.

2.5

In Sept 2004 FearFighter was awarded the HUSITA prize for Best International Human Services Software by a peer review of International experts.

2.6 

The ACD criticises a FF RCT because it used relaxation treatment as a comparator but fails to say why this is unsatisfactory beyond an opaque allusion to “expert testimony” which is not clarified. The ACD says “Treatment as Usual” is “an appropriate comparator”. TAU generally means giving minimal or no support, relaxation, face to face CBT, or a prescription of benzodiazepines or other drugs.

2.7 

FF was effective when tested against TAU in the form of relaxation, face to face CBT, and other CCBT without exposure. The ACD dismisses this evidence by citing “clinical experts” but who are they? Published expert opinion including NICE’s own Guidance No. 51 said FF is efficacious, and NICE’s current Evaluation Report in the Appendix gives evidence that FF is clinically effective, as do the Royal College of Nursing, TOP-UK, and the Institute of Psychiatry.

2.8 

 In its latest RCT, FF was tested against CCBT without exposure, which patients would not know differed from usual CBT and CCBT. This is like a double blind study in CCBT research and should be recommended by NICE as a standard to beat rather than to be ignored.

2.9 

In addition this important study, unlike others the ACD commends, controlled for the use of an Internet system, which point is missed by the ACD.

2.10

There is a great lack of balance and fairness in the ADC. We have successfully tested our internet version yet the guidance as it stands will allow the untested wide propagation of future internet versions of BTB and of Overcoming Depression and will encourage large players to enter the market with poorly-tested programs.

Cost Effectiveness

2.11         

ST Solutions was disadvantaged in producing its best evidence for cost effectiveness by administrative issues at SCHARR. At a very late stage ScHARR refused to honour its promise made at NICE’s meeting on April 6, 2004 to discuss with us its economic models and data requirements. It emailed us on Sep 23, 2004 asking for raw data which was held by 9 researchers then in Switzerland, Ireland, UK, Japan and the US. On Oct 4 SCHARR phoned us to say it would exclude home-accessed Internet programs from its analysis! We objected and NICE reassured us that our net programs would be analysed after some delay. When the SchaRR report was published (dated early Dec 2004 but not distributed until mid-Jan 2005) we took advice and were told that it would take 3 months to evaluate our data and we only had 4 weeks. Had we known in April 2004 our economic analysis could have been completed and presented to the committee in good time. Our health economist can do this work and we are prepared to pay for it on the understanding that we are given enough time and that it will be taken into account in NICE’s guidance.

2.12         

Neither SCHARR nor the Evaluation Report team have completed their economic analysis of FearFighter to the same standard as that for Beating the Blues and although valiant efforts have been made in the Evaluation Report there remain significant shortfalls.

2.13         

The Assumption that CCBT is additional charge for FF but not for BTB is unfair and not supported by the evidence from Kenwright who found that the secondary care referrals from primary care were reduced when the self care clinic was in operation and subsequently increased when the clinic closed  

2.14         

The changing severity across group cost issue cannot be answered unless we are given more time to obtain a health economist’s evaluation

2.15         

No discounts appear to have been allowed for PC hardware, maintenance  and office space not being required

2.16         

The incremental cost for FF &BTS cannot be answered unless we are given more time to obtain a health economist’s evaluation

2.17 

A sensitivity analysis has not been undertaken, whilst the Evaluation Report acknowledges the provisional nature of the costings but the figures are given as exact numbers not presented as a range and confidence level

2.18         

Double treatment for failed patients calculation. In our experience of several hundred patients very few have been treated twice on FearFighter

2.19

We presented new evidence on costs as Guidance No. 51 requested. NICE have only used a cost model similar to that of our competitors and have not considered in full the strong evidence we have that FF is a lot cheaper than face to face CBT therapy

 

Results of the economic comparison

The present ACD reflects ScHARR’s economic model which has hidden complexities and questionable assumptions and is difficult to explain to the NHS managers. A more transparent economic model may be Drummond’s  approach, which NICE used in other appraisals; this is far more easily explained to managers in the NHS. It could yield a transparent table with cells perhaps as below:

Drummond A.(1996) “Research Methods for Therapists”  London Chapman and Hall

Drummond MF, Torrance GW, Mason J. “Cost-effectiveness league tables: more harm than good?” Soc. Sci. Med., 1993;

 

AN ALTERNATIVE MODEL:

Costs calc per Pt per

year

 

Comparator was CBT without exposure

face-to-face

 

CCBT

FearFighter

Relaxation

References

Rate of recovery

(%)

 

etc

Etc

 

 

 

Cost (£) per 1) patient treated

 

 

 

 

 

Cost per

treatment-related

recovery 28 (£)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 3) Whether the provisional recommendations of the Appraisal Committee are sound and constitute a suitable basis for the preparation of guidance to the NHS?

3.1

The recommendations are not sound as they fail to recognise the proven clinical efficacy and effectiveness of FF in several trials and the patient choice, access, and cost benefits of Internet provision.

3.2

The routine use of FF can yield data on utilisation and outcome which we would be glad to give the NHS for future independent reviews. The ACD overlooks this unique feature. 

3.3

The ADC should set equal fair standards for all products.

 

4) Whether the preliminary views on the impact on resources and implications for the NHS are appropriate?

4.1

The ACD’s views are difficult to understand and do not reflect actual costs in the real world. The committee needs to allow the time denied to us so far to undertake a fair comparable economic review.

4.2

The ACD needs to be cogniscent of the advantages of the latest research and to differentiate between Data-Driven CCBT programs such as FF, BTSteps and Cope and Information-Based programs such as Overcoming Depression. Data-Driven CCBT programs can potentially greatly reduce the cost of audit.

4.3

Confusion of Internet CCBT systems, and Internet Information systems must be avoided and this report does not address this vital issue which must be clearly communicated throughout the NHS

5)Whether all the evidence available to the Committee has been appropriately taken into account regarding BT Steps?

NO for several reasons:

5.1

5.1  The ACD is arbitrary in its choice of evidence. For example the research found different effects with different outcome measures. When comparing BTSteps to TCBT the ACD only attends to those results when TCBT was better. The ACD ignores the fact that BTSteps was as effective as TCBT in the intent-to-treat analysis in terms of improving work and social adjustment and reducing the mean number of hours per day spent in rituals and obsessions, while for patients who did at least one exposure session BTSteps was as effective as TCBT on every measure. Clinicians thus motivated more patients to start exposure, but once patients began exposure they improved as much when guided by CCBT as by clinicians. Non-CBT clinicians might thus encourage patients to start self-exposure under BTSteps guidance even if those clinicians do not know exactly how self-exposure is done, just as clinicians advocate treatments from other specialists.

      5.2

ACD claims lack of detail including baseline measures etc. that are clearly there in both the Greist and the Kenwright RCTs (randomised controlled trials). Has the ACD perhaps been misled by SCHARR’s misreporting of research giving a wrong setting and wrong patient numbers and other errors?

5.3

Some sufferers prefer CCBT to TCBT for reasons of confidentiality and convenience. This important point is overlooked.

 

6) Whether the summaries of clinical effectiveness and cost effectiveness are reasonable interpretations of the evidence regarding BT STEPS?

NO for several reasons:

6.1

The shortcomings in ScHARR’s economic evaluation of FearFighter also apply to BTSteps.

6.2

Two comparators were used in the Greist BTSteps RCT (randomised controlled trial) - TCBT and relaxation. Relaxation is a stronger TAU comparator than doing almost nothing which is the most common treatment as usual. Why should this be a reason for dismissing the study’s result when the ACD recommends packages which have no RCT evidence and no comparators and one which has only 10% of the patient numbers treated in the RCT?

6.3

An important finding of the Kenwright RCT for CCBT implementation within the NHS is that BTSteps patients who were briefly supported by a few short scheduled phone calls were more compliant and improved more. The ACD ignores this.

6.4

We are at a loss to understand why the ACD recommends a depression package based on evidence from only 20 patients in one non comparator trial, yet does not recommend BTSteps with supportive findings from both a large multi-centre two-country RCT with 218 patients and strong comparators and from a further RCT. All packages should be judged by the same fair criteria.

6.5

Research presented to NICE found that the mean time of unemployment and health-care resource use was 8 years for sufferers from OCD. The ACD does not take such costs into account. The impact of these chronic patients on health and social care resources is considerable. It is not unusual for NICE to cite such costs when considering guidance.

6.6

The same arguments apply to BTSTEPS as to FF re the cost and economic evaluation but in addition

6.7

The YBOCS scores of 35% are used to identify positive treatment effect  c.f. the more normal 25%. A reanalysis based on 25% would improve the cost efficacy.

6.8

The ACD cites a licence cost for BTSteps based on an economic model using a different value for patient uptake than the one on which we had been advised. We now accept that there may be a problem re throughput because of low numbers and have taken steps to remedy this important point as follows.

6.9

BTSteps remains available at a cost of £200 per patient treatment episode for a minimum purchase of 30 (patient) licences – BT STEPS licences can be used by any healthcare service in the PCT. The advertised cost of £36,000 to cover all treatments for one year in a PCT was intended to be a discount on this price. We offer PCTs credit for unused licences where the PCTs is offering a PCT wide service and fails to use 180 (patient) licences in a year. The credit is based on a maximum price of £200 per patient treatment episode. There is no extra charge for increased usage over the 180 patients in one year.

7) Whether the preliminary views on the impact on resources and implications for the NHS are appropriate regarding BTSteps

NO

7.1

Given that the report acknowledges the shortage of CBT therapists, the fact that OCD is one of the most disabling and chronic anxiety disorders, and that BTSteps is supported by a large RCT and a smaller RCT and an open study with many positive findings, surely it would be reasonable to conclude that it would be beneficial to recommend it for wider use? We are happy to supply data on its continued use to independent researchers to enable NICE to continue to monitor the implementation of BTSteps.

8) Whether the provisional recommendations of the Appraisal Committee are sound and constitute a suitable basis for the preparation of guidance to the NHS regarding BTSteps?

NO for the reasons given above

 

PLEASE NOTE – BTSteps is the name used until now. We were recently advised that this may cause confusion with the BT trade name and so are renaming the product OCFighter.

 

Stuart Toole

ST Solutions Ltd

 

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